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DECEASED: John Kalafatis

Court hears evidence as Kafalatis  murder investigation opens

“ You don’t f*** with Ian Khama,” one of the accused in the John Kalafatis murder investigation is reported to have said before security forces allegedly gunned down the suspected criminal.

A packed High Court heard the evidence of his younger brother Costa Kalafatis as the high profile case opened in the High Court on Wednesday.

The investigation into the killing of John Kalafatis commenced at the High Court with his young brother Costa called as the first witness.

Giving evidence he alleged that he was told,  “You don’t f**k with Ian Khama,” as security officers revealed they had orders to kill his brother. Narrating events that led to the alleged murder, Costa said the accused, Dzimakane Mothobi had told him this as they questioned him on the whereabouts of his brother.

Mothobi is charged together with three other Botswana Defence Force corporals, Goitseman Sechele, Ronny Matako and Boitshoko Maifala for the murder of Kalafatis at or near Moonland Shopping Complex on 13 May 2009.

Costa told the court that sometime in early 2009, while he was at a bar in Extension 14, Mothobi who was in accompany of other officers came and took him for questioning.

“I was detained at Gaborone Central Police Station and later taken to the Criminal Investigation Department headquarters where Mathobi questioned me on the whereabouts of my brother.”

He said it was then that Mothobi indicated to him that they had been given orders to shoot Kalafatis the moment they saw him as he had ‘messed’ with the wrong people.

“Mothobi told me that my brother was involved in a robbery in Phakalane and that people they had robbed were close friends of President Khama. He also told me that John and the other guy behind the robbery had severely beaten their victim and that my brother had broken the fingers of their victim’s wife.

“He told me that he was ordered to shoot John and there was nothing that could be done. When I asked who gave the orders Mothobi said, ‘You don’t F**K with Ian Khama,” Costa told the court.

He said on the day his brother was killed, they were at home around 5pm but later left for Thapong Visual Arts as Kalafatis wanted to get his phone from his friend, Ray Gare, another witness who has since reportedly fled to New Zealand.

Costa said he later parted ways with his brother and went to buy drinks at Village Police Mess.

“After buying my drinks I went to my car which was parked at a stop opposite police the mess.  As I got ready to drive off, a Nissan Safari with government registration numbers (BX) parked in front of my car. In no time another vehicle with private registration numbers parked behind. The Nissan Safari had between 8 to 12 men at the back who then jumped out and approached me,” said Costa.

He added that when he got out of the car, Mothobi who was in the car with private registration numbers, asked other officers to get his phone and pass it on to him. “ “Mothobi then asked me about John’s whereabouts, and when I said I don’t know he said ‘O a tshameka, today re tlo go mmolaya’. (He’s joking, we are going to kill him today).

While talking to him I saw a rifle on his lap,’’ he said.

After searching him and his car, Costa said he was then ordered to go home.

“While driving home I met John, Gare and a guy called Joseph driving in Gare’s Corsa. I warned my brother, who was sitting at the passenger seat at the back, that I had been held by police officers and one of them said he was going to kill him, but he did not take me seriously.  I told him that the men looking for him were armed and begged him to leave the neigbourhood.”

He said while they were still talking a vehicle approached from the direction John and his friends had come from, and warned them that it could be the car Mothobi was in. He then asked them to drive off, but they ignored him.

“As the vehicle approached I realised that it was the one. Gare then slowly drove off and the car followed them to Moonland Shopping Complex, which is near my house. I lost sight of the vehicles and in less than two minutes I heard gunshots. I later learnt that my brother had been shot dead,’’ he revealed.

The case continues.

68 COMMENTS

  1. u mess with a bull u get the hons…… we vote our political party we get shot… so dont fu*k with the president

  2. Only BMD noogers can mess with the man,,,,as 4 young noogers like John,,u’ll neva survive DIS and lately the will incriminate evidence and shizzzzzzzzzzzzzz,,,beware guys

  3. BARE FA E KA PHORA LE RAPO YA TLWAELA well guez this dog chewed the wrong bone and hey dont have to comment but you heard it dont f***ck with the big people neh nna botswana o ntsenya june these days………………..

  4. Eish, this is sad! We still have a long way to go! We are not in any way different from other African countries. Batswana re a kae? BDP is good but lets not support wrong things! im just looking at comment from some of the readers…its easy because the dead man was not a relative, but one only sees the gravity if it involves a relative! Lets strive to be a caring nation. Lets respect life, the blood of a motswana is expensive!

  5. Thsese guys must be hanged…they conspired to kill! The person who gave the order must also be held accountable. I dont believe it is the president who gave such orders. people will go to extreme heights to show that they love him. Ian Khama loves life, i dont believe he gave such orders!

  6. guys its not about the president./ get it ryt its about politics and stupit deals/ i guess this guys had a big secret sa ga president

  7. botswana is changing to the worst guyz whr r we heading do we thing we wil be all alive by 2016.guyz lets change for the better not worst

  8. jaanong ke mathata.. re ya kae Batswana.. who knows that he or she will b there 2016. 2day is John 2morrow is mi.. n u hav to think that next it will b u.. are boneng gore re tokafatsa seemo jang se ise se bifele kopele..

  9. sure mathaithai..nna ebile ke tshogetse family yaka,gatwe ose tshege dija mmamotho etlare di ja mmaago ba go tshege tdi…

  10. I think if you live by the sword you should die by the sword, hence I am all for corporal punishment.
    But having said that we do have a marvelous judiciary system and it should have been followed to the letter NOT the secret service taking the law into their own hands just because ‘You don’t f*** with the president.’
    So we can only wait to see what happens to the accused and then and only then we can assume where the orders came from!!
    **PEACE OUT!!!***

  11. Is this the issue of the colour or what.I have observed for some time now.Some years back a woman from South Africa by the name of (marieta Bosh) committed murder here in Botswana and she was convicted for murder and sent to death. That was when we started to hear about human rights groups in Botswana. they were agaist her sentence. But then there was never a protest before despite the fact that there had been many people sent to death before. Why? they were black and bosh was white…..Then again the depotation of Good caused a lot of noise though he was not the first to be sent out of the country. Todate the whole issue is centred on Kalafatis. It is very clear he had a criminal record and he was on the list of most wanted criminals. I can see he is white as well or double. So Is it that we black people do not value ourselves or that we lack selfbelief. Come on you so called politicians and rights activists; when is the right time to complain, only when one particular race is offended.Thats your stand and stronghold.Why was Kalafatis targeted and not you or me, because I am inocent and you as well.Now a point to remember; Tsela e dirukhutlhi tsa gompieno di opharaitang ka teng ha e tshwane le ya bogologolo. Batshola ditlhobolo and they use them on people.Mapodisi ke batho jaaka nna le wena.Iwould hate to hear a policeman a bolailwe ke serukhutlhe as a true patriot. they must be armed and use those guns when their life is in danger.I don’t think you guys ba le reng ‘u don’t f****K with the president have evidance to support your allegations. So you are politically motivated and you are afraid of your own behaviour. Maintain a good,crime free record and you will never become the next victim after kalas.Batswana you need to be optimistic about the future and stop being pessimistic. You are waisting time energy and resources that way. Be wise and resist dependency on hearsays(from private media). VIVA BOTSWANA VIVA…………..LONG LIVE MR PRESIDENT LONG LIVE…………….. In the past one policeman can go out and arrest a criminal. They used bicycles and they were respected. Today is just the opposite. So if we protect disinye and at the same time we complain to the goverment that we don’t have employement…thats hypocracy. Ha borokhutlhi bo leselediwa our country gains a bad name as a hive of crime and boradikgwebo ga ba kake ba tla go investa mo go lone. so we all suffer together with the economy!!!!!!!!

  12. Folks I do agree with those who feel that this murder was politically motivated. However, I am still of the notion that for someone to be executed,due process must prevail. Nobody knows that the accused were at the murder scene in their individual capacities as hangmen, if they were, then the order must have come from H.E. by default. Furthermore, even if the orders had been to execute the deceased, I doubt that it was lawful against John.

    As eagle might agree (or not) Kalafatis was murdered/ assassinated by definition because he had not been put to trial, found guilty and senteced to death. On the other hand, Marieta Bosch’s case was given due process. So, the perpetrators (including master minds) of this crime must be brought before the courts and justice must prevail, and our moral fibre must be restored. Ka Setswana legodu le ga o ka tswa o le kaa jaaka ntsa, ga le bolawe jaaka ntsa.

    Finally le tsone dintsa ga di sa tlhole di bolawa fela jaaka pele because re tlhabologile and we are more Humaine than some of our predecessors.

    Robala ka Kagiso John, nnete e tla go sekela.

  13. @Eagle.. ke go eleletsa masego le matlhogonolo ka se o buang ka sone.. ka golebega wene o tshwana le Jeso..re bua ka loso is not a joke.. celebration ke ya gago next time ke ya rona..nna ke motsadi ke dira mo goteng mma ngwana o tshwara thipa ka ha bogaleng.. ka John one a sa bolaya motho o bolaetsweng? ke eng ane a sa atlholelwe sentence ya mogobo wa gagwe.. batho ba bolaya batho mme ba pantitele molato go fitlhela ba kalediwa. or life sentence .. itse gore molaa kgosi o a ithaya. itse gore menwana e metlhano mo letsogong, ha o ntshupa ka o o supang ele 4 e supile wena.. akanya sengwe ka seo!! GOD BLESS!!

  14. @ eagle…, I think you are in support of the VP that 1 or 2 killings will not tarnish Botswana’s name. Because of your anger you are so confused in putting your point across. The issue here is the killing of John without due process. As to whether he was a crook is something for another arguement. Was he killed in self defence, I dont think so. Yes, arrestting criminals has evolved, but still the police men’s duty is to arrest and not to be judges etc. If he resisted arrest and was killed during a shoot out with the police I will have no qualms about it and believe most people wont. I will not comment on issue with Mma Bosch and Goods case as they are totally irrevant to the case at hand.
    As to the “U dont f**k with the president…” comment, it is not hearsay. From the papers that was something said by one of the witnesses in the court of law. You probably did not get it from the story, or you dont believe it as it has not been reported by Btv, daily news and RB 1&2. If you think it will appear in those dont hold your breath for too long, there is 1 chance in a million that they will report it, just like they put a blackout on Johns killing/murder.

  15. that was just a comment guys. don’t go emotional. after all it is an issue before the court of law ………..

  16. Where is Chris M i guese he has sumthing to say defending H;E @eagle look b4 u lip coz one of da gud dais ul find dat u have f****ked whith the president and o tla bolawa mmolao wa noga nd no 1 will say a word coz ur blac… so as batswana i think we shud stand up and the president shudint fu***k with us and to MATHAITHAI i think u gat sumthing in ur mind to what i hav said…. RIP John nd jah bless yah…..

  17. tlhanyane, why should the President need defending in this case? What evidence have you got that he has anything at all to do with this case? Because of what a witness said a police officer said? When a police officer or any other person says anything about the leader of the country does it mean that leader has anything to do with it or even knows about it? Let the facts emerge in court and then you will find out the truth. Already some witnesses have changed their story and that does not do them any favors. Based on what has emerged in court so far, how does that square up with what Sunday STD said then? Now you see what I mean when I say politically biased journalists lie without shame?

    No one should die for anything just as much as no one should be robbed? If this guy was abiding by the law, he would be alive today. His crime record was the length of your arm and he made lives of people in the city living hell. No, he didn’t deserve to die but he lived dangerously, bound to end up like this. In our country, you are more likely to be robbed than be hurt by our security officers. You are more likely to die on the road than at hands of our security. Our security’s job is difficult because of criminals and things like these would not happen if it wasn’t for criminals. Abide by the law, and you will be fine! Be a criminal and you invite trouble! The question for me is, exactly what is the connection between politics in our country and this guy? What sets him apart from other criminals such that pro-opposition papers should make so much noise about him and lie in the process? We need to find out because i would hate to think that there are criminals given special treatment when terrorizing our law abiding citizens. The choices you make in life as a person may well determine your fate! Let the facts come out though!

  18. Sth has to be done to these guyz a mme gone the guy whom thy are saying he ordered them is it true he does so i mean is it true he made tht oder kgotsa ba ne ba dira ka bo bone.if is true thy were odered le ene o tshwanetse go tlhalosa thata.a ba bolawe

  19. If police offices are going to be dragged to courts of law like this for doing the work on the best interest of the nation(for protecting the country and its people) then there is a problem.I think they went out to hunt for this kalafatis with a full knowledge of how dangerous he is.That he goes aroud armed. though some guys like mathaithai are so worried, the remaining truth is that security officers can never get into your life without a reason. Why kalafatis and not you Mathaithai or me eagle/ntsu. -there is no smoke without fire-.We need not be afraid of security officers guys. the moment you see yourself having a problem with them then you are a criminal. you are afraid of your deeds more than the law enforcement agents themselves. I thank chris for setting it straight. the truth must be spoken. We want a crime free country. ha re batle go tshwana le mafatshe a mangwe mo o fitlhelang borokhutlhi e le kgwebo, a big no here mathaithai………….no.

  20. le lona le a lapisa bathong,le isa kae serukuthi,o kare o ka tsoga atla kwaa lona ,a simolola ka botsadi,a feleletsa ka wena

  21. life is precious no matter whether the person o ne ale bosula or wat,i dnt really appreciate wats done in this country diz dayz,why this man a ne a sa sekisiwe hela jaaka sdirukuthi tse dingwe,a arabela molato wa gagwe ka fa go tshwanetseng,i i bet it wouldnt have been death,it would have bin atlist sum years in prison,rip john and i say if o batla go pokela those people who killed u,do so and i will support u!

  22. IJO KE BOTHATA AKERE,JAANONG SETLHOGO SE SA DITLHAPA SE SUPA ENG,WHY LE NE LE SA BATLE SETLHOGO SENGWE GO NA LE SE,DOES THIS MEAN MO BOTS LEFOKO LE LE KA DIRISIWA WHERE AS MO MAHATSHENG A MANGWE A TSIDIDI LE KGALEMELWA, FA ELE E KGANG O KARE DILO TSA DI FILIMI,A MOA WA GAGWE O ROBALE KA KAGISO GOLO A GO ROBETSENG,FA E LE NNA KE TSHABA GONE GO AKGELA THATA FA E LE GORE MOTHO O BOLAILWE JALO,AKERE GAPE KE SANTSE KE LWELA KGANG YA BASARWA,BA MPHITISE,KE A IPHALOTSA BETSHO.

  23. watch out batswana nd foreiners, stop f***kin with the president or else u gonna be f***ked up 4 gud. nna tota um totaly out in presidential issues…. i dnt want 2 b f***ked up. to all outlaws beware of the gun!!!!

  24. HEELANG BAFETHU NNA WHAT UM WAITING TO HEAR IS WHO GAVE THE ORDERS COZ MAYBE RE TLA RE ITS the big guy kante its not him but heish the papers are on theguys who did this hey le lona boskwata khandang go romiwa judgement ko le godimong ga gona I was in the line of duty or e teng ne lekgotla will see how the story ends well mangishi T.I.A THIS IS AFRICA anything can happen…..nna um glad mo bots.we dont have these freaks who blow their heads up………………..

  25. what is so special ka kalafatis,the same year and some years before and after he was killed many blacks batswana were killed there was no noise,the media,human rights,politicians were quite.some guys were shot in serowe and francistown,1 in maun yo aneng ae rota fa trateng and bo the voice never made noise,this guy must have been a celeb or friend.at we can all now see that armed roberies dikotase nowadays,kante babareng batshogile bone baraya ba tshoswa ke eng?just because kalafatis o bolailwe mme kana ga selantha ntswa fa esenya e bolawe.

  26. Guys like Eagle and Chris ba tshwana hela le those people who kiled Kalafatis ke malope ke ipotsa gore ba lopela eng se ba tla sekeng ba se bone!legodu le sekela molato le bo le atlholwe police officers do not prosecute and punish> police brutality is a serius issue in other countries lets not let it brew up in our country!it has nothing to do with race but the murder of a felow citizen>

  27. NO DISRESPECT TO ANYONE SOUNDS LIKE A MAFIA GANGSTER FILM

    EVEN IF YOU ARE A CLOSE ASSOCIATE OF SOMEONE AND THEY HAVE BEEN ROBBED AND THEY KNOW THE ROBBER THEY SHOULD GATHER EVIDENCE AND BRING THE PERSON TO BOOK IN A CIVILISED MANNER ANDNOT JUST KILL A PERSON BECAUSE OF ONE IS ASSOCIATED WITH SOMEONE .

  28. every dog has its own day ,,,while u enjoying smuggling ,robbing ,raping innocent people out there remember you will find it waiting for you somewere in a blind corner i lay my case here those who dont know john will make noise but if u know his history of crimes nd his victims you will shut up nd say thank god he has died i can open my business now coz this guy was recruting troops to be his fellowers in his activities now he is gone how many robbery have we reported since his death .thank god this man died

  29. Thank u badbrown maduo a boleo ke leso. To all the thiefs, rapists and thugs out there wath out cause DIS e tla le gobatsa.

  30. @badbrown and his displs………ther is direct crime of which kali was a culprict and indirect crime which consits of bribe, coruption etc mo re bonang matona a puso a godira eg notorius mochindo hu is said to be dead bt i dnt blive,modelu and others those guyz are robin us as a nation bt nt as individuals and they are duin this to be bo ramadimadi bt nt to ern a livin bt bogodu ba ga kali, he wanted to bring food to the table for his family . so ke ipotsa gore matona a puso y cnt they be shot becz ba senyetsa sechaba sa botswana including you…………………………. Badbrown, Chris M, Eagle…………………….and those hu suprt that we shudnt fuc* whith the president………….xwala

  31. Wena Tlhanyane u must have been one of Kalafatisi’s disciples,the guy was very dangeruos wena ware he was stealing to put food on his table.Do u have to steal to put food on your table,batho ba bangwe ba a sokola and fools like bo Kalafatisi ba a ba utswela,le gone ba ba harasa ka ditoy gunnyana tseo tsa bone and heartless people like u are enjoying it.The guy decided to dance with the devil and he deserves to die!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  32. Tlhanyane kante ke eng Kali yoo wa gago ane a sa batle tiro ko ga goromente gore ate a utswe sentle a sa salwa morago.Go lebega ole one of his trainees why don’t u take over where he left ka gore go lebega o kare o tshwentswe ke leso la legoduga leo la role model ya gago.

  33. YES CRIMINALS MUST BE SORTED OUT IN A CIVILISED WAY NOT IN PUBLIC VIEW HOW DO YOU THINK THE PEOPLE THAT SAW THIS THEY MUST HAVE BEEN TRAUMATISED BY IT

  34. Hela Cheerful we are talking about a heartless, dangerous, deadly criminal who doesn’t deserve any messy. Kana ke raya leshodu, leepantu, lenwenwe, serukhuthi se se senang pelo. Killing that thug go thusitse ba ba setseng dikgwebo di tla tswelela le dibanka di tla saver madi to repair diATM machine tse a di blustilen. Kali ke moipolai yo o sa lelelweng. O ikgamoletse mala mo sesaneng.

  35. Deadly criminals do not deserve MERCY not MESSY!!!! Yes we all agree but they should have found a CIVILISED WAY TO DEAL WITH IT . U TAKE THEM TO THE GALLOWS ETC.

  36. i think the DIS got sum work to do”elliminate those suckers” from that KASI,those niggas deserve capital punishment,im mad at them coz they once rob me…”GOOD WORK MR KGOSI”

  37. What is mind boggling is that the person was left to roam the streets for a long time and just when someone who is associated to someone is robbed action is taken

  38. problem statement: execution style, dat’s da principal. option number1: fa ole shibi run b4 gunned down or option number2:quite!!!!! choose one

  39. eish! ths a disficult to trubleshoot, bt the fact is that thre is no criminal in bots which can be killed reguardless of hw much crime he commited without any resean behind b4 the judgement, unless the criminal wil be armed and not following to the worning signals of the corps, nd intend to war up, therefore the corps should defend themslvs too, bt not in the intention of killing, but of dispowering him, for thm to be able to arest him. and therefore John ws not a ciminal bt a suspect of which of coz thre ws a backgroud iformation of hm frm the corps for thm to be armed. so john did somethn at the scene which cozd the corps to fire up, people jst think of David Jully, a criminal known al over da contry evn S.A, he neva killed, y? he listernd to signals of the corps and they took all his amination to arrest him. Therefore john cozd his death it ends there. thats my opinion.

  40. The problem seems also be with these people like the owners of businesses etc. who want to rub shoulders with people in positions at the end of the day its what they can get like jumping the queue calling the shots and being HAUGHTY AND PROUD AND LOOKING DOWN AT PEOPLE, one would be surprised how the SO CALLED UPPER CLASS BEHAVE and then what happens the person whose floor their are kissing gets BIG HEADED 9DOES NOT SEE HOW THEY ARE BEHAVING BECAUSE OF THESE PEOPLE THAT SURROUND THEM) AND DOES NOT BEHAVE IN A CIVILISED MANNER – WHAT LANGUAGE THESE PEOPLE USE (referring to the 4 letter word used)

  41. THESE UPPER CLASS PEOPLE THINK THAT BECAUSE THEY WERE BORN INTO MONEY AND BECAUSE MONEY SPEAKS THEY CAN CALL THE SHOTS, BREAK THE LAW ETC. ONE WOULD THINK THAT THEY CAN DO AS THEY PLEASE TO ANYONE. YOU WOULD THINK THAT THEY WERE BEING BROUGHT UP IN A DECENT AND CIVILISED MANNER “MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL”

  42. IN OTHER WORDS THE PERSON CALLING THE SHOTS IS SAYING “YOU (FOUR LETTERWORD) WITH ME YOU (FOUR LETTER WORD) WITH THE DEVIL” BECAUSE OF MY STATUS OH MY GOSH I PITY THE WOMAN WHO GAVE BIRTH TO HIM

  43. IT WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME THAT ALL THESE PEOPLE TRYING TO RUB SHOULDERS WITH THIS PERSON ARE HAVING A GOOD LAUGH “BEHIND CLOSED DOORS” (BECAUSE THIS IS EXACTLY HOW THESE UPPER CLASS PEOPLE BEHAVE)ONE WOULD THINK THE PEOPLE THAT SURROUND YOU WOULD GIVE YOU SOME “GOOD ADVICE” ON HOW TO BE CIVIL BUT NEVER MIND THEY CANNOT BECAUSE IT CAN ONLY BE “MUMMY” OR DADDY!!!

  44. ONE WOULD THINK THESE MIXED RACE PEOPLE WOULD BEHAVE IN AN ORDERLY AND CIVIL MANNER WHEN IN POSITIONS THEY HAVE BROUGHT SHAME ON THE MIXED RACE PEOPLE YOU WOULD EXPECT SOMEONETO DO THEIR OWN “DIRTY”WORK AND NOW FAMILIES HAVE BEEN AFFECTED. ONE WOULD THINK THAT SOMEONE WOULD HAVE APPROACHED THE PERSON IN A CIVILISED WAY AND WARNED THEM OR ARRESTED THEM IN A CIVILISED WAY

  45. legodu la bolawa hela go tle go tweng.lesang go neneketsa mahoko le bue hela.kana le tshaba go seka batswana. tlhe bathung bo rre KOLO le bo matlholaadibona le bo kana gate bo kusasa kana ga teng ba kae ba akgele! kanan ha ba ka nna xposed to this ijoo re tlo go utlwa mathata more so that it will be free!

  46. A MME BOSUPI JO BO BUIWANFG FA KE BOAMMAARURI KANA COSTA O SETSE A THOKA DIKGANG A PROFESSIONAL SAMBODI CANT TEL YOU GORE O BATELANG MOTHO,,,NEVA I DOUBT THE BOSUPI JOO.

  47. nna ga kena bothata le leso la ga john, go swa ga gagwe go fokoditse kutlobotlhoko le le huma le leneneng le tla re ema pela ka baka la go senya ga gagwe, ke ipotsa gore fa a ne a santse a tshela ka december o kabe a direle efe tiro gone jaana o ka be a garotse pelo tsa bo mang, ba ba reng sethege dijang mamotho ga ba thaloganye gore setswana seo sene se kwalelwang, go tshwana fela lefa o kare setshege yo o weleng in this case re bua ka se senyi se se pelo e bothoko kgaa!se seneng se senang le fa e le kutlwelobothoko so a tsamae a emele tsheko ya gagwe ko moleteng wa dihele, nna lefa ele losika kana ngwana wa ga mme a senya fa a bolailwe ke tla utlwa bothoko mme gone ke ikgomotsa ka gore re tla re huu!